13 thoughts on “The Trend of Zion Spoken at Conference Since 1850

  1. It’s a start. We need to dig deep here. We need to look at what’s being said about Zion. Frankly, I don’t think the GA’s take Zion, the Gathering, the New Jerusalem, etc., seriously anymore. Think about what they’ve invested in downtown SLC–especially the 3 billion they’ve poured into the City Creek Center. We’ve been tricked into thinking we’re supposed to sit on our hands until called to do something. What is the origin of this erroneous, man-made doctrine? The time to build Zion is NOW and always has been. Nevertheless, it can’t be built until, guess what, the natives ON THIS CONTINENT receive the gospel. And no, we can’t just ship them up from South America. Why? Because it’s THEIR inheritance, not ours! We only share in it insofar as we repent and humble ourselves. “For, verily I say that the rebellious are not of the blood of Ephraim, wherefore they shall be plucked out.” Does the LDS Church look like a Church that takes Book of Mormon prophecy, its own theology, seriously? I’ll let you decide.

    • Look at our messed up history. It’s the Gentile (our) way to take people and force/coerce them do it our way. It never turns out good. Of course we like being leaders and the chances of people stepping aside and giving up power is rare.

      John the Baptist was different. That crazy Nazarite said, referring to Jesus taking the lead, ” He must increase, but I must decrease.”

      Then Jesus referring to this humble man who knew his role in the Kingdom of God said, “For I say unto you, Among those that are born of women there is not a greater prophet than John the Baptist: but he that is aleast in the kingdom of God is greater than he.”

    • Ya, it’s a great resource. It even has snippets and info when the terms were used.

      I’m trying to move forward and not focus on the picking on the LDS Church TM but this site doesn’t help.

      I will say one thing, the term Charity has increased dramatically over the years.

  2. I noticed a lot of the GospelTM key-phrases go up over time [Faith, Repentance, etc. as capitalized, trademarked Principles of the Everlasting Gospel] — but it’s those washed-out, drab uses of the phrase, the kind that renders the word utterly meaningless.

    Those kinda uses artificially inflate actual results — and ending talks in “in the name of Jesus Christ” have really shot-up the incidence of “Jesus” along the same lines.

    • Ya, that’s key when using these statistics. Also, like Noah said, what is the context. Is someone explaining Charity, giving examples of Charity or telling us to repent and have Charity?

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  4. For sure John. I hope it can help you on your path!

    Also, I think I may have found the reason behind the spike in the 1870’s:
    Things had gone so far by 1875 that another Reformation was in order. President Young at conference spoke, “on the great duty that rested upon the Saints to put in operation God’s purposes with regard to the United Order, by the consecration of the private wealth to the common good of the people. The underlying principle of the United Order was that there should be no rich and no poor, that men’s talents should be used for the common good, and that selfish interests should make way for a more benevolent and generous spirit among the Saints.” In response, “The whole assembly [of the priesthood] voted to renew their covenants, and later the Presidency, the Twelve, the Seventies, and the Presiding Bishop were baptized and entered into a special covenant to observe the rules of the United Order. . . . “This movement became general throughout the Church.”

    John Taylor, Wilford Woodruff, and Lorenzo Snow, who were to be Brigham Young’s successors, all became enthusiastic leaders in the movement. http://maxwellinstitute.byu.edu/publications/books/?bookid=75&chapid=938

    • This is no doubt the real reason why the U.S. government started persecuting the saints with anti-polygamy laws. They used the prejudices of general populace to fight the Mormons who they feared would become a dangerous political and economic force. As Russian writer Leo Tolstoy said, “[Mormons] teach the people not only of Heaven and its attendant glories, but how to live so that their social and economic relations with each other are placed on a sound basis. … If Mormonism is able to endure, unmodified, until it reaches the third and fourth generations, it is destined to become the greatest power the world has ever known.”

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